Radio Sputnik, Escalation Host: I’d like to start with the topic of the United States and find out what’s going on over there, because just

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Radio Sputnik, Escalation Host: I’d like to start with the topic of the United States and find out what’s going on over there, because just recently Pentagon head Pete Hegseth stated that the situation in the world today is comparable to 1939. As he put it, he hopes for 1981. We all understand what those years mean: 1939 was the start of the Second World War, 1981 was a tense moment when there really could have been conditions for a Third World War and a nuclear confrontation. Now it’s unclear: are these just words, or is he talking about an inevitable future that awaits all of us?

Alexander Dugin: Of course: in recent days and weeks, we’ve seen a sharp rise in the degree of escalation. Our expectations and the hopes of many people around the world — that a conservative policy, Trump’s conservative revolution, would truly change the course of world events, that Trump would follow his words and promises to voters and focus on domestic problems, abandoning interventions in other regions — these hopes have been shattered to pieces. Alas, those promises, the image of a new American policy — the end of the Fourth Turning and the beginning of the First, the end of the agony of liberal hegemony, the establishment of a new conservative golden age — all the things that had been worked on during the 2016–2018 election campaign by Trump’s most consistent ideological supporters have now all collapsed.

Therefore, the point is that Trump, despite changes in rhetoric, has essentially become almost indistinguishable in foreign policy from Biden, from the globalists. It’s the same hegemony, the same desire to hold on to the unipolar world, despite the fact that, after his inauguration, Trump took several steps toward recognizing a multipolar world, promised to stop conflicts and wars, to make a deal with Russia, to stop supporting the terrorist Kiev regime. But not even a year has even passed, and nothing remains of that program — not even close. And now we are returning to the line that would have existed even without Trump: the line of the Democrats, of Biden, possibly of Kamala Harris, with an escalation of relations between the rising multipolar world — where Russia plays a central role — and the agony of the unipolar world, doomed and falling into the abyss.

Western hegemony is collapsing, but the question is this: will it collapse alone into that abyss, or will it drag all humanity with it?

Judging by the latest, already grim and apocalyptic movements in American policy under Trump and his military machine, the plan seems to be such: if Western hegemony is coming to an end, then let it burn with a blue flame and destroy everything — nothing for you, nothing for us.

Host: May I ask about this change in Trump’s policy? From the beginning, he kept saying that he wanted to make America great again — that’s his main slogan and key phrase. Inside the country, he still acting harshly against migrants. He’s also pursuing that trade war, which not everyone expected but many presumed might erupt. After all, Trump has a business approach. It seems he hasn’t really departed from his original theme: he continues to talk about peace and is trying to make peace agreements. But now it appears that Pete Hegseth’s statement reflects not so much Trump’s own policy as much as a general global trend of sliding into a Third World War. After all, Hegseth emphasized: our main competitors are actively developing armaments, we need to do the same. So, it turns out they are trying to catch up with us after the demonstrations of “Poseidon” and “Burevestnik.” And Trump’s policy seemingly hasn’t undergone radical changes: as before, it aims to make America great again and is persisting in that direction.

Read the full interview here:

https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/america-first-or-israel-first