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ViVaTech. Видео-интервью с Марком Цукербергом (Mark Zuckerberg) (ч.2)

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ELN Insider, "Behind the Scenes", Issue 70, 2018

Часть 2: начало интервью с 00:00 до 03:55 (всего 40 минут)

CEO Фейсбука отвечает на общий вопрос о том, что он считает основными проблемами (the most important issues) и даёт пояснения относительно своей позиции и реакции на произошедшее и происходящее.

00:00 - 00.52

(interviewer - ML, MARK Z - Mark Zuckerberg)

НАЧАЛО (приветствия, благодарности, smalltalk)

ML: (to the audience) Be seated!

ML: Mark ... It's a great pleasure! It's cool to have you (in) here in Paris!

Cлева Mark Z, справа ML
Cлева Mark Z, справа ML

ВИДЕО Ссылка 1 (Facebook) NB! Общий обзор интервью в 1-ой части, там же ссылка 2 на видео всей конференции.

Mark Z: Thank you for having me!

(no .. no .. .. I'm glad to be here)

ML: Thank you. Thank you for being with us!

I really appreciate ... And they* know that ... when I wrote to you ... you almost* accepted immediately

... and I really appreciate (it) ... It's great!

SO ... A lot has been said recently ... about ... Facebook, data, Cambridge Analytica

Honestly, I didn't want to cover that,

but you said "no, no, no"

Mark Z: (but) we have to!

ML: We have to. Do it upfront!

ПЕРВЫЕ ВОПРОСЫ

so

what I('d) like to hear from you is ...

(ML: to the audience: S'il vous plaît!)

is .. ok

"How have you reacted to this?"

and

"What has* been the most important issues for you?"

and maybe you can share with us a few of your own feelings?

ЗАМЕТКИ НА РОЛЯХ colossal blunders (stupid or careless mistakes)

(у ML c анлийским не очень - особенно печалит ошибка на порядок слов "almost accepted immediately" - cмысл получился "вы почти согласились сразу", то есть, если так, то Марк не согласился, получается (почти согласился = всё-таки не согласился, что-то помешало), а правильно "accepted almost immediately" - практически сразу согласился ... в общем, Mark Z улыбался всю дорогу, видимо, сделал в уме скидку на то, что ML не носитель языка и к нему хорошо относится; остальные косяки (has вместо have в последнем вопросе, например, или использование they вместо you в filler-е "you know", отмечены звёздочкой) сильно на смысл сказанного не повлияли)

0.52 - 04:3 Mark Z:

Sure. Well, you know,

we're facing

a number of really important issues

right now.

And,

you know,

the way

that I've found out

about this is ...

ЗАМЕТКИ НА ПОЛЯХ

(вот тут то, что в языке называют false start (фальш-старт), их ещё далее несколько будет: говорит до середины предложения, потом останавливается, начинает совсем новое - это НОРМАЛЬНО. Пишу специально для готовящихся к устной части разных экзаменов - устная спонтанная речь характеризуется некоторым количеством фальш-стартов, и ХОРОШИЕ экзаменаторы об этом в курсе, потому они легко отличают зазубренное наизусть от спонтанного)

... For ... most of Facebook's existence,

we've focused primarily on all the good

that connecting people

and that technology

can bring.

1:14

As we've grown, we've seen

all these people around the world

have gotten access to

new tools

to stay connected

with the people and communities

they care about.

In Paris, here,

you know,

after the ...

the terrible terrorist attacks

a number of years back

(you know)

people used the tools

to ... to be able to ...

to tell their friends and family

that they are safe

and to show support for ...

for people

here.

ЗАМЕТКИ НА ПОЛЯХ

(Cкрипт хорошо показывает, что есть natural hesitation, а также показывает, какой тип повторов, по идее, не должен никак наказываться на устных экзаменах по языку - repetition (повторы) cлужебных слов (for / to / and) и местоимений (we) - см. примеры выше и ниже, в каких случаях, как и фальш-старты, абсолютное нормальная фича устной речи)

1:24

Around the world

there are more than

70 million small businesses

that use

our tools

in order to reach their customers

and to grow

and ... and more than half

of these small businesses

that use our tools

have told us

that they are able to grow

and ... and hire more people

because of using our tools.

1:50

But

what's clear now

is that

in addition to that

we ... we didn't take

a broad enough view

of how people might be able to use

these tools

for harm as well.

1:59

And that goes for

all of the issues that you've mentioned

for fake news

for interference in elections

for hate speech

for ... erm developers

potentially using the tools

in ways

that don't respect people's privacy.

2:19

So

we need to take

a broader view

of our responsibility

to make sure

that

we're not just reacting

to issues

as they come up,

but we are

out there

to prevent any issues

from happening

and going forward.

(And, you know)

if your look at a ...

2.31

... For most of the company's history,

the way that we've dealt with

bad inappropriate content

or bad actors

is

reactively.

When people can go on Facebook,

they can say what they want.

And if there is an issue,

then someone in our community will flag at us,

and we'll look at it.

And I don't think that's enough now

with the current issues

that we see

around hate speech and fake news.

2:51

We need to be building systems

using AI and other technologies

that can go out and

detect the stuff

proactively.

We are hiring thousands of people.

2:59

By the end of this year,

we're gonna have

more than 20,000 people

at the company

working on security and content review

to make sure that

that we're proactively helping

to get rid of bad content;

and,

just to give you one example

of an area where .. where

I'm really proud of our work ...

In terrorism, for example,

3:15

99%

of the ISIS

and al-Qaeda related content

that we take down

is flagged

by our AI systems

before any person

in our community

reports it.

SO

that ..

THAT

I think

is a big deal

and is an example of

the kind of work

that we can do

using our AI systems,

hiring thousands of people

to ... to be more proactive.

3:35

When .. when you look

across the other issues

that we face

whether that

protecting election integrity

or

making sure

that countries like Russia

can't interfere in other elections

like they tried to do

in the 2016 US elections;

3:46

we just have a lot of work to do here

and we're ..

we're confident

that we can get in front of this,

3:50

but what* really IS

the top priority

for the company right now

is making sure

that we are doing

a good job on this.

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